MSNBC viewers votes on who won GOP debate

Unbelievable... wow can MSNBC do something so obvious? Why are competing networks not covering this?

abcnews.go.com also did this until pressure from digg and reddit users forced them to put the results up and include Ron Paul.

In this case (not that there aren't others to the contrary) it wasn't the media, but Ron Paul's supporters that were trying to manipulate our minds. In truth, very few people actually voted, but the Ron Paul supporters did, over and over again, until they had so many votes that it appeared that there were people out there that had not only heard of Ron, but that they actually liked him too! Sadly, this wasn't the truth, and once MSNBC had noticed the abuse of the voting system, they erased the totals.

Sadly, this wasn't the truth, and once readers noticed they dismissed Anonymous Debator #3's unsupported claim.

I participated in the poll on msnbc, once. They had a mechanism to keep you from voting over and over again. Probably just a cookie thing. But still, there is a pretty big underground support for the guy. He has been making good arguments for a long time. Even some (maybe most) people who know about him are surprised when I tell them he is running.

ABC has actually began deleting comments again. There were over 1000 comments/complaints... and now the site shows "18 comments". And they will probably get away with it.

All networks are owned by big corporations, probably linked to the Federal Reserve and Military Industrial Complex. They want a puppet, not a real thinker like Ron Paul.

msnbc is a shit news outlet from a shit country so who cares? stupid americans, whoever your president is he is gonna be a freemason fag so it makes little difference who voted for what or who did what or who did who

RON PAUL needs the support of everyone who wants to see U.S. imperialism halted. Liberal or conservative, Democrat or Republican, if you are for non-interventionism, against the Drug War, the Iraq War and for civil liberties and the Bill of Rights, help Ron get his message heard. The mainstream media obviously doesn't want opinions "outside the box" aired -- at least, until enough people demand it.

I think the reason Ron Paul got so many votes is because he actually has a huge online presence. I have seen him on myspace, youtube, he even is a "featured politician" right here on the political wikia. I like Ron Paul, and I like the way he thinks. I do not know if he is the right person to lead this country, I really dont know if any of the people running are actually the right person to lead this country. I wonder, if it were Mccain, or Guiliani, or Romney that had won the online voting, would the same thing happen? I don't know, Im just happy that there are places like this where we can actually discuss the truth, or the non truth, or whatever you want to call this?

#9: If whatever country you're from is populated with folks of your intelligence and insight, (assuming you're not a 13 year-old), then America doesn't have near the set of problems than does your unfortunate country.

Media Bias. Big companies are afraid they wouldn't be able to buy Ron Paul.

Woops- the comment above from number 12 refers to Anonymous Debator number 10.

I'm starting to see the criticism that this Ron Paul support is nothing more than viral marketing. I think such criticism is completely off base. I'm a Democrat. I think Dr. R.P. is the only one out there whose ideas can save this country. The more dismissive the MSM becomes, the more determined I'll be to get his ideas across. They are ideas that deserve an airing.

Meh, Ron Paul is a republican I'd rather vote for Ron Jeremy

MSNBC has been doing the same thing to Mike Gravel. For some reason, they really don't want us to know about the REAL top Republican and Democratic candidates by sheltering it's viewers from even knowing anything about them.

If you're upset about this, you should just kill yourself. I'm not kidding. if you are so fucking stupid as to not understand why the poll was invalid, why leaving the results would be unfair to the *real* leaders, and why their actions are perfectly responsible, they you should just kill yourself.

Ron Paul and Mike Gravel are HONEST politicians who want to serve the PUBLIC, not the corporations. Of course they have huge "underground" support, because no other type of support is available for them - certainly not from the mainstream media.

Thank God we have the internet and blogosphere to bring some truth and reality to the political process. Paul and Gravel have real chances to win their respective nominations, because the groundswell behind them won't go away.

I find it funny that the ABC poll listed more than 7000 votes, while Giuliani and McCain had less than 100. Of course, everybody claims the Paul supporters "gamed" the voting system. I don't think so. Ron Paul's supporters are passionate and they take the time to go vote in these polls. Who can be passionate about those other stiffs? They supposedly have millions of supporters, but only 100 bothered to vote in the poll? They are doomed.

Oh, and if you're so borderline retarded that you think RP is actually winning any polls, then again, you should just kill yourself. I love RP, but I'm not an idiot. It saddens me that my support of libertarian principles means that I am routinely associated with paranoid assholes like the lot of you.

Paranoid? Your crazy for telling people to kill themselves, you honestly have some kind of mental problems. Even if the voting system was rigged, which I doubt it was, Ron Paul won it. Ron Paul has supporters on the internet. That doesnt make these people idiots. It just means that Ron Paul is obviously finding other ways to put is name out there, which is not a bad thing. The places he has presence in are places where a lot of young people so called "hang out" on the internet. So perhaps the young people of America will start giving a rats ass and actually vote for someone inteligent with great points and great views. Ff the old farts in this country would find better ways to help the young people more aware of what is going on. Instead of telling the young people they should kill themselves, you should try to inform the young minds and help make them aware of things that you think are valid.

#16, i would say that this debate is proof that your argument is wrong. look what post is leading in response on this website. a ron paul post. ron paul has taken in more that a million dollars in donations, he did well on the debate, who knows if he won that is judgement call and i think that everyone is bias on that call. i go to a lot of political sites and ron paul is always on there. he may not be the biggest guy one the sites, but he is always in the forum section. he has a very strong young person following. this is because he actually cares about the future generations, instead of being a politician that will sell his country out to corporations and bankers. i dont understand your problem with ron paul #16, ron paul says he will re-institute the contitution, minimal federal government with the states making the tough decisive decisions like gay marriage, abortion, stem cell etc.

@6: A poll has a responsibility to report what the audience shows. I alone flooded The Bush-Gore debate of 2000 in The Gainesville Sun (Major paper in Gainesville, FL), changing the results to a 70-30% win for Bush in a primarily democratic area and they still posted it. I even emailed them afterward to explain why the results were so unexpected, and it wasn't printed. The best thing to do in a situation like that is to post the number counts instead of percentages. People will start to realize that only a thousand votes can throw off the verdict.

is this vote didnt matter, if this vote has not validity, then why is MSNBC so scared to keep it how it was? Why do they delete it? Why do they manipulate it? Sure Ron Paul doesnt stand a chance, but have the decency to give him exactly what he deserves and earned.

Hillery Obama paid off the corporate media. Who are you going to choose to be the next dictator of the united fascists of America?

The real winner of the debate was Fred Thompson...and he wasn't even there.

I don't know who won but reading a lot of this i must conclude that the losers are those who follow this political sport and take it too seriously.

With all of this censorship in the U.S media. I'm starting to feel like I'm living in China. Yes, I have lived in China before. At least China has a bright future. http://www.l...sborders.com

Keep it up America, censoring, silencing. Soon you too could have a Dictator running the show on behalf of America.inc just like China has China.inc........

**Update** Yahoo thinks Ron Paul isn't popular enough to be in their election coverage... but Mike Huckabee is??? When you call Yahoo!, they tell you that Ron Paul isn't popular enough to be in their political section, yet their own page http://news...._debate_poll

states that Ron Paul Wins MSNBC Debate Poll!

Mother's day is coming up... the biggest day of the year for 800flowers.com. If you were planning on purchasing from 800flowers.com don't! Call them and tell them you won't because Yahoo is blocking Ron Paul!! They support Yahoo with huge advertising dollars so you can't support Yahoo via 800Flowers.com. Jim was just on Wallstreet for the opening bell in honor of Mother's day

http://inves...p;highlight=

Jim Mccann, CEO or Chris Mccann, President 800 Flowers.com (516) 237-6000

Investor Relations (516) 237-6131 http://inves...irol-contact

State Farm also purchases advertising space from Yahoo. Call State Farm and them and tell them what Yahoo! is doing and how you fell about Ron Paul. Let them know you can't purchase insurance from them because of their Yahoo! support.

State Farm Auto Insurance Edward B. Rust (309) 766-2311 (309) 766-6200 home.pa-newsroom.168d00@statefarm.com

Here are more numbers for Yahoo! Call them and let them know how you feel!

Brad Garlinghouse Senior Vice President, Communications, Communities, and Front Doors (408) 349-3300 Option 1 to dial by name, then 4275 then, Option 9

He oversees the company's communications and communities products, as well as the primary starting points to the Yahoo! network. These services represent the most popular destinations on the web and include Yahoo! Mail, the most popular webmail product in the world, Yahoo.com, the world's most heavily trafficked webpage, My Yahoo!, the most popular personalized start page on the web, and a number of other services including Yahoo! Messenger with Voice, Yahoo! Groups, Yahoo! Photos, Yahoo! Avatars, and Yahoo! 360, the company's social publishing tool... let him know you won't be using these services and recommend your friends don't either.

David Karnstedt Senior Vice President and General Manager, Direct Business (408) 349-3300 Option 1 to dial by name, then 5276 then, Option 9

He is responsible for building and deepening relationships with Yahoo! Search Marketing's current and prospective advertisers... let him know you are calling his advertisers.

Hilary Schneider Senior Vice President, Marketplaces (408) 349-3300 Option 1 to dial by name, then 72463 (yes it's one more number) then, Option 9

She oversees Yahoo Personals, Classifieds, Shopping, Travel, Auctions, and Yellow pages... good to let her know you won't be using these services)

We gave the CCO a chance.. let them know she blew it!!

Jill Nash Chief Communications Officer Senior Vice President

(408) 349-3300 Option 1 to dial by name, then 6274 then, Option 9

That is, unfortunately, only the first step the public takes: voicing their negative opinion. When large numbers of them do that, CEOs take notice, because it could mean a fall in profits.

When CEOs fail to take notice, and there is no other remedy, that's when the boycotts, then demonstrations, and then riots ensue.

Also, the poster who was apparently seriously advocating suicide was probably only interested in getting this list of comments removed (because it advocates suicide), thus attempting to further squash discussion on this issue.

Anonymous cowards who pop in to discussion boards to tell people, "this is a non-issue", or level ad-hominem attacks against strangers, are the ones with something to conceal.

"Nothing to see here! Move along!"

"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!"

Dig deeper.

My guess is that people who tend to hang out online are a bit more educated and engaged than your average voter; the wealth of information online makes you ask more questions. Ron Paul reflected that skepticism in his debate spots and the internet lit up in approval. I would think that ron paul's message is speaking to more highly educated people and his success online reflects the relationship between his base and the internet - two places where more educated people hang out. In reality the polls, are over-representing him because the rest of the republican base is stuck on dialup in rural america. This doesn't mean he doesn't have support - its just an MSNBC internet poll doesn't bring out Joe Blow America whereas election day will. My two cents.

I think a lot of this has to do with the fact that MSNBC would actually delete that though. Perhaps it may not be the full joe blow america, it may not have even been a fraction of the American people who voted on the debate, hell it could have even been a bunch of 14 year old kids and 16 year old kids who had nothing better to do. The thing is though, if this vote doesnt matter, it MSNBC is going to manipulate the vote anyways, why even have a vote in the first place? Why? There is no rational explination as to why MSNBC even deleted the vote counts, or peoples comments.

Thats like going to someones blog and commenting and having them delete your comments, which we all know as bloggers is againts our golden rules.

MSNBC should fess up to their manipulation, I wonder how many people actually think Ron Paul Didnt win this debate. (Based on MSNBC's vote count he did).

Some things I would like to point out, they stuck Ron Paul all the way to the right, the far right, he hardly had as much TV time as Mccain, or Guiliani, or Romney. The camera man Caughed during his segments more then three times, I counted it. He had shorter responses, and they always made him go last, so that no other candidates would comment on his statements or points of view.

Down with big media I say.

I doubt very seriously if DR. Paul's supporters were trying to manipulate anything. I'm on 32 news groups and they all are going to work his campaign. They believe in in him. I believe in his integrity and his ability to lead this nation in the way it will take to stop a nuclear war. He will be strong, fair and tough on border control. He will turn this country around. Go Ron Paul!!! He is smarter than all of the other candidates put together and people will see this and already have. The main stream will try to keep his support down but it won't work millions of people are working for him.

I note that Fox News website does not list the winner from last night's debate either 5/15. Ummm, wonder why? Yeah, it's just so nice to hear from someone who is an independent thinker, and not just one of "the good ole boys." Go Ron Go!

Again Ron Paul wins the second round of debates,although youd never know it watching the mainstream media.In the MSNBC poll he came in 2nd place to Mitt Romney although the majority of the time Ron Paul was clearly in the lead.He clearly stood out from the rest of the candidates yet again both on stage and in the polls.I believe Ron Paul is by far the best choice out of all the other candidates including in the democratic party.If i were an american citizen id vote Ron Paul in 2008.You will see how bad things get if one of these puppets like Clinton or Obama or Giuliani get in power.

I did notice that when I checked the Foxnews website, that the poll they prominently show in the politics selection was done in Mid-April and Rudy G received the highest favorable rating U. Link: http://www.f...9627,00.html I checked the ABC News site a few minutes ago and Ron Paul had almost 21,000 out of 24000+ votes.

Link http://abcne...L288=4000000

I know that these online participatory polls are not "Scientific" according to proper sampling, however, at this point I would have to say that Ron Paul's supporters are being much more active (and that is an understatement) than the other candidates supporters.

Thank you for your time and I am glad that we have these forums to discuss these matters.

Unbelievable... wow can MSNBC do something so obvious? Why are competing networks not covering this?

abcnews.go.com also did this until pressure from digg and reddit users forced them to put the results up and include Ron Paul.

In this case (not that there aren't others to the contrary) it wasn't the media, but Ron Paul's supporters that were trying to manipulate our minds. In truth, very few people actually voted, but the Ron Paul supporters did, over and over again, until they had so many votes that it appeared that there were people out there that had not only heard of Ron, but that they actually liked him too! Sadly, this wasn't the truth, and once MSNBC had noticed the abuse of the voting system, they erased the totals.

Sadly, this wasn't the truth, and once readers noticed they dismissed Anonymous Debator #3's unsupported claim.

I participated in the poll on msnbc, once. They had a mechanism to keep you from voting over and over again. Probably just a cookie thing. But still, there is a pretty big underground support for the guy. He has been making good arguments for a long time. Even some (maybe most) people who know about him are surprised when I tell them he is running.

ABC has actually began deleting comments again. There were over 1000 comments/complaints... and now the site shows "18 comments". And they will probably get away with it.

All networks are owned by big corporations, probably linked to the Federal Reserve and Military Industrial Complex. They want a puppet, not a real thinker like Ron Paul.

msnbc is a shit news outlet from a shit country so who cares? stupid americans, whoever your president is he is gonna be a freemason fag so it makes little difference who voted for what or who did what or who did who

RON PAUL needs the support of everyone who wants to see U.S. imperialism halted. Liberal or conservative, Democrat or Republican, if you are for non-interventionism, against the Drug War, the Iraq War and for civil liberties and the Bill of Rights, help Ron get his message heard. The mainstream media obviously doesn't want opinions "outside the box" aired -- at least, until enough people demand it.

I think the reason Ron Paul got so many votes is because he actually has a huge online presence. I have seen him on myspace, youtube, he even is a "featured politician" right here on the political wikia. I like Ron Paul, and I like the way he thinks. I do not know if he is the right person to lead this country, I really dont know if any of the people running are actually the right person to lead this country. I wonder, if it were Mccain, or Guiliani, or Romney that had won the online voting, would the same thing happen? I don't know, Im just happy that there are places like this where we can actually discuss the truth, or the non truth, or whatever you want to call this?

#9: If whatever country you're from is populated with folks of your intelligence and insight, (assuming you're not a 13 year-old), then America doesn't have near the set of problems than does your unfortunate country.

Media Bias. Big companies are afraid they wouldn't be able to buy Ron Paul.

Woops- the comment above from number 12 refers to Anonymous Debator number 10.

I'm starting to see the criticism that this Ron Paul support is nothing more than viral marketing. I think such criticism is completely off base. I'm a Democrat. I think Dr. R.P. is the only one out there whose ideas can save this country. The more dismissive the MSM becomes, the more determined I'll be to get his ideas across. They are ideas that deserve an airing.

Meh, Ron Paul is a republican I'd rather vote for Ron Jeremy

MSNBC has been doing the same thing to Mike Gravel. For some reason, they really don't want us to know about the REAL top Republican and Democratic candidates by sheltering it's viewers from even knowing anything about them.

If you're upset about this, you should just kill yourself. I'm not kidding. if you are so fucking stupid as to not understand why the poll was invalid, why leaving the results would be unfair to the *real* leaders, and why their actions are perfectly responsible, they you should just kill yourself.

Ron Paul and Mike Gravel are HONEST politicians who want to serve the PUBLIC, not the corporations. Of course they have huge "underground" support, because no other type of support is available for them - certainly not from the mainstream media.

Thank God we have the internet and blogosphere to bring some truth and reality to the political process. Paul and Gravel have real chances to win their respective nominations, because the groundswell behind them won't go away.

I find it funny that the ABC poll listed more than 7000 votes, while Giuliani and McCain had less than 100. Of course, everybody claims the Paul supporters "gamed" the voting system. I don't think so. Ron Paul's supporters are passionate and they take the time to go vote in these polls. Who can be passionate about those other stiffs? They supposedly have millions of supporters, but only 100 bothered to vote in the poll? They are doomed.

Oh, and if you're so borderline retarded that you think RP is actually winning any polls, then again, you should just kill yourself. I love RP, but I'm not an idiot. It saddens me that my support of libertarian principles means that I am routinely associated with paranoid assholes like the lot of you.

Paranoid? Your crazy for telling people to kill themselves, you honestly have some kind of mental problems. Even if the voting system was rigged, which I doubt it was, Ron Paul won it. Ron Paul has supporters on the internet. That doesnt make these people idiots. It just means that Ron Paul is obviously finding other ways to put is name out there, which is not a bad thing. The places he has presence in are places where a lot of young people so called "hang out" on the internet. So perhaps the young people of America will start giving a rats ass and actually vote for someone inteligent with great points and great views. Ff the old farts in this country would find better ways to help the young people more aware of what is going on. Instead of telling the young people they should kill themselves, you should try to inform the young minds and help make them aware of things that you think are valid.

#16, i would say that this debate is proof that your argument is wrong. look what post is leading in response on this website. a ron paul post. ron paul has taken in more that a million dollars in donations, he did well on the debate, who knows if he won that is judgement call and i think that everyone is bias on that call. i go to a lot of political sites and ron paul is always on there. he may not be the biggest guy one the sites, but he is always in the forum section. he has a very strong young person following. this is because he actually cares about the future generations, instead of being a politician that will sell his country out to corporations and bankers. i dont understand your problem with ron paul #16, ron paul says he will re-institute the contitution, minimal federal government with the states making the tough decisive decisions like gay marriage, abortion, stem cell etc.

@6: A poll has a responsibility to report what the audience shows. I alone flooded The Bush-Gore debate of 2000 in The Gainesville Sun (Major paper in Gainesville, FL), changing the results to a 70-30% win for Bush in a primarily democratic area and they still posted it. I even emailed them afterward to explain why the results were so unexpected, and it wasn't printed. The best thing to do in a situation like that is to post the number counts instead of percentages. People will start to realize that only a thousand votes can throw off the verdict.

is this vote didnt matter, if this vote has not validity, then why is MSNBC so scared to keep it how it was? Why do they delete it? Why do they manipulate it? Sure Ron Paul doesnt stand a chance, but have the decency to give him exactly what he deserves and earned.

Hillery Obama paid off the corporate media. Who are you going to choose to be the next dictator of the united fascists of America?

The real winner of the debate was Fred Thompson...and he wasn't even there.

I don't know who won but reading a lot of this i must conclude that the losers are those who follow this political sport and take it too seriously.

With all of this censorship in the U.S media. I'm starting to feel like I'm living in China. Yes, I have lived in China before. At least China has a bright future. http://www.l...sborders.com

Keep it up America, censoring, silencing. Soon you too could have a Dictator running the show on behalf of America.inc just like China has China.inc........

**Update** Yahoo thinks Ron Paul isn't popular enough to be in their election coverage... but Mike Huckabee is??? When you call Yahoo!, they tell you that Ron Paul isn't popular enough to be in their political section, yet their own page http://news...._debate_poll

states that Ron Paul Wins MSNBC Debate Poll!

Mother's day is coming up... the biggest day of the year for 800flowers.com. If you were planning on purchasing from 800flowers.com don't! Call them and tell them you won't because Yahoo is blocking Ron Paul!! They support Yahoo with huge advertising dollars so you can't support Yahoo via 800Flowers.com. Jim was just on Wallstreet for the opening bell in honor of Mother's day

http://inves...p;highlight=

Jim Mccann, CEO or Chris Mccann, President 800 Flowers.com (516) 237-6000

Investor Relations (516) 237-6131 http://inves...irol-contact

State Farm also purchases advertising space from Yahoo. Call State Farm and them and tell them what Yahoo! is doing and how you fell about Ron Paul. Let them know you can't purchase insurance from them because of their Yahoo! support.

State Farm Auto Insurance Edward B. Rust (309) 766-2311 (309) 766-6200 home.pa-newsroom.168d00@statefarm.com

Here are more numbers for Yahoo! Call them and let them know how you feel!

Brad Garlinghouse Senior Vice President, Communications, Communities, and Front Doors (408) 349-3300 Option 1 to dial by name, then 4275 then, Option 9

He oversees the company's communications and communities products, as well as the primary starting points to the Yahoo! network. These services represent the most popular destinations on the web and include Yahoo! Mail, the most popular webmail product in the world, Yahoo.com, the world's most heavily trafficked webpage, My Yahoo!, the most popular personalized start page on the web, and a number of other services including Yahoo! Messenger with Voice, Yahoo! Groups, Yahoo! Photos, Yahoo! Avatars, and Yahoo! 360, the company's social publishing tool... let him know you won't be using these services and recommend your friends don't either.

David Karnstedt Senior Vice President and General Manager, Direct Business (408) 349-3300 Option 1 to dial by name, then 5276 then, Option 9

He is responsible for building and deepening relationships with Yahoo! Search Marketing's current and prospective advertisers... let him know you are calling his advertisers.

Hilary Schneider Senior Vice President, Marketplaces (408) 349-3300 Option 1 to dial by name, then 72463 (yes it's one more number) then, Option 9

She oversees Yahoo Personals, Classifieds, Shopping, Travel, Auctions, and Yellow pages... good to let her know you won't be using these services)

We gave the CCO a chance.. let them know she blew it!!

Jill Nash Chief Communications Officer Senior Vice President

(408) 349-3300 Option 1 to dial by name, then 6274 then, Option 9

That is, unfortunately, only the first step the public takes: voicing their negative opinion. When large numbers of them do that, CEOs take notice, because it could mean a fall in profits.

When CEOs fail to take notice, and there is no other remedy, that's when the boycotts, then demonstrations, and then riots ensue.

Also, the poster who was apparently seriously advocating suicide was probably only interested in getting this list of comments removed (because it advocates suicide), thus attempting to further squash discussion on this issue.

Anonymous cowards who pop in to discussion boards to tell people, "this is a non-issue", or level ad-hominem attacks against strangers, are the ones with something to conceal.

"Nothing to see here! Move along!"

"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!"

Dig deeper.

My guess is that people who tend to hang out online are a bit more educated and engaged than your average voter; the wealth of information online makes you ask more questions. Ron Paul reflected that skepticism in his debate spots and the internet lit up in approval. I would think that ron paul's message is speaking to more highly educated people and his success online reflects the relationship between his base and the internet - two places where more educated people hang out. In reality the polls, are over-representing him because the rest of the republican base is stuck on dialup in rural america. This doesn't mean he doesn't have support - its just an MSNBC internet poll doesn't bring out Joe Blow America whereas election day will. My two cents.

I think a lot of this has to do with the fact that MSNBC would actually delete that though. Perhaps it may not be the full joe blow america, it may not have even been a fraction of the American people who voted on the debate, hell it could have even been a bunch of 14 year old kids and 16 year old kids who had nothing better to do. The thing is though, if this vote doesnt matter, it MSNBC is going to manipulate the vote anyways, why even have a vote in the first place? Why? There is no rational explination as to why MSNBC even deleted the vote counts, or peoples comments.

Thats like going to someones blog and commenting and having them delete your comments, which we all know as bloggers is againts our golden rules.

MSNBC should fess up to their manipulation, I wonder how many people actually think Ron Paul Didnt win this debate. (Based on MSNBC's vote count he did).

Some things I would like to point out, they stuck Ron Paul all the way to the right, the far right, he hardly had as much TV time as Mccain, or Guiliani, or Romney. The camera man Caughed during his segments more then three times, I counted it. He had shorter responses, and they always made him go last, so that no other candidates would comment on his statements or points of view.

Down with big media I say.

I doubt very seriously if DR. Paul's supporters were trying to manipulate anything. I'm on 32 news groups and they all are going to work his campaign. They believe in in him. I believe in his integrity and his ability to lead this nation in the way it will take to stop a nuclear war. He will be strong, fair and tough on border control. He will turn this country around. Go Ron Paul!!! He is smarter than all of the other candidates put together and people will see this and already have. The main stream will try to keep his support down but it won't work millions of people are working for him.

I note that Fox News website does not list the winner from last night's debate either 5/15. Ummm, wonder why? Yeah, it's just so nice to hear from someone who is an independent thinker, and not just one of "the good ole boys." Go Ron Go!

Again Ron Paul wins the second round of debates,although youd never know it watching the mainstream media.In the MSNBC poll he came in 2nd place to Mitt Romney although the majority of the time Ron Paul was clearly in the lead.He clearly stood out from the rest of the candidates yet again both on stage and in the polls.I believe Ron Paul is by far the best choice out of all the other candidates including in the democratic party.If i were an american citizen id vote Ron Paul in 2008.You will see how bad things get if one of these puppets like Clinton or Obama or Giuliani get in power.

I did notice that when I checked the Foxnews website, that the poll they prominently show in the politics selection was done in Mid-April and Rudy G received the highest favorable rating U. Link: http://www.f...9627,00.html I checked the ABC News site a few minutes ago and Ron Paul had almost 21,000 out of 24000+ votes.

Link http://abcne...L288=4000000

I know that these online participatory polls are not "Scientific" according to proper sampling, however, at this point I would have to say that Ron Paul's supporters are being much more active (and that is an understatement) than the other candidates supporters.

Thank you for your time and I am glad that we have these forums to discuss these matters.